"But what I did, I thought needed be done"

[earthbelow]

This might just be one of the most unbelieveably moving pieces of footage on the 'net that I've seen.

Standard Disclaimer: I don't condone violence. I don't condone hurting people. Me posting this link isn't *condoning* it. This ISN'T the way to get your point across. Her point might be exactly correct, but her methods were wrong. Very wrong.

I can't speak for other countries, but as for America, there's a better way to protest. She *should* have gotten her own signs, her own posse, her own protest together. And she didn't. In her method she was very, very wrong.

That said, the violence wasn't serious and we've all seen worse. Not that ANY level of violence is acceptable. But like she says, "This is life, it's not that simple."

The reason I'm posting this is because the things she said and the absolute raw emotion in it touched me. Because sometimes in the wrong action is the right motive. Because I believe she really didn't want to hurt anyone, she just wanted to be heard. She just wanted something that felt wrong and evil to her to *stop*.

In this, I understand her.

Because if you want to understand why the debate is so strong, why the arguements are so brutal, why the struggle is so hard, this is it.

Attack on Rose.

As for the information on the site, I'm not sure if the person who got pushed is the person who owns the site. The site itself is that of a woman who has very strong Christian beliefs. I would ask that those who do visit her site respect her beliefs and refrain from contacting her to say anything rude or uncalled for.

I realize that there are many on my f-list who are not Christian and hold strong opinions concerning those of faith and their actions and beliefs. That's fine. I also know that these people are capable of rational thought and acting respectfully towards others that they disagree with.

Of course, I have a very awesome friends list so I don't anticipate this being a problem.

I would also ask that anyone who does leave comments be respectful of the comments of others. Debate is of course, welcome, and I never mind people having discussions in my journal. Feel free to talk and debate (RESPECTFULLY and LIKE ADULTS!) as long as you want/need to.

Comments

[denoue-moi.livejournal.com]

I think it's bad to have really gross signs like that where sensitive people might be. Sensitive like ladies who have had to abort or have miscarried and children and the easily squicked by blood. I'm not one of those foam-pad the world types, but I think that when you can, you should take it easy on people with the gore.

Because it might make someone feel bad enough to smack you.

I felt warm and fuzzy seeing that cute girl react the way she did. I kinda want her number now.

I spent a lot of years controlled and held down and force-fed religion so maybe that's why I like a little violence. I know it doesn't help things and makes ReligiCunt look like a Pweshus Wittle Martyr.

That being said, she didn't stab that protestor in the face. I doubt she was hurt. I was sort of hoping she'd stand there and beat her with the bloody sign.

[denoue-moi.livejournal.com]

Hmm. Just realized that my comment may not be respectful or what have you. Feel free to delete, Meg. I wouldn't be offended.

[thousandpages.livejournal.com]

I understand that you have strong emotions and that you could have said a lot worse. I'm not going to delete the comment because, frankly, it's not nearly as bad as you could say (or as bad as I'd like to say sometimes). You could go "Christians r teh sux0rz lolz 1111111!!!!" or "All Christians suck" or some such.

Which is neither respectful nor mature.

My criteria for this kind of thing is if you've given any thought to the opposite side of the arguement.

You said, "I know it doesn't help things and makes ReligiCunt look like a Pweshus Wittle Martyr. "

Not the language I'd've used, but you're not me (thank goodness!) - but you do acknowledge that there's another side to it. Which shows rational thought and consideration, which is all I ask.

Plus, I understand that you're not insulting every single Christian/religiously-motived person on the planet.

You're expressing yourself in a *very* straightforward way. It's one of the things I appreciate most about you.

[denoue-moi.livejournal.com]

I don't want to make anyone feel bad. But I secretly do mistrust Christians. Sorry, guys, your customer service hasn't always had my best interests at heart.