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I'm really getting sick and tired of people (notably thin people who think they know everything about health and weight loss) who feel the need to pressure us larger types into considering/getting weight loss surgery as though it's somehow really easy just to pop into a doctor's office and get that little obesity problem fixed right up.

Even with systems like the LapBand, it's still fucking surgery, which comes with additional risks the larger you are, due to anesthesia and other factors. And if you have diabetes, heart problems or other health issues, surgery becomes even riskier.

It's also not a guaranteed fix. Yes, you lose weight on that system, but you can gain it back as well. Not to mention that it requires a rather radical shift in lifestyle and how you eat.

We won't talk about the side effects of it, or how things can go permanently bad. With any surgery, death is a risk.

I'm not saying that surgeries like that are bad, or that people are wrong to get them. I think that for some people who have health concerns and reasons to take weight off quickly and can't diet and exercise (or for whom it is demonstrably not effective), having a surgery like that is life saving. If you're 700 pounds, can't get out of bed, are severely diabetic, and facing the loss of life and limb, and surgery can save your life, go for it.

But only if it's the best choice for you, not because people convinced you that you weren't getting skinny fast enough.

I wish people who say, "Oh, why don't you just get weight loss surgery?" would realize what they're saying. You're asking for me to have my body invaded and an organ surgically altered because you don't think I'm where I should be on your Scale of Fitness.

I'm sorry if I'm not shedding these pounds fast enough for you, Oh Thin One, but I'd like to keep attempting something short of having my digestive tract rearranged with surgical tools, thanks. And I think you should help yourself to nice fat glass of Shut The Fuck Up.

Date: 15 Apr 2009 01:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denoue-moi.livejournal.com
Looks like the Meg's having a bad night. I'm here if you need me. Anytime. Srsly. Not like I have a job or something. 615-360-8827<3

Date: 15 Apr 2009 22:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thousandpages.livejournal.com
Thanks! :) *hugs*

Date: 15 Apr 2009 01:47 (UTC)
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wls is just surgically-induced anorexia. it's also not likely to help someone who isn't an overeater.

nevermind all the HORRIBLE things that can go wrong, as you said.

and the resulting extensive plastic surgery required after the initial wls surgery is, erm, "successful" (i use that word loosely). one girl i know has had four plastic surgeries and has miles of scars. in clothes it's great. not in clothes... wow. that's a big price to be thin.

i won't even get INTO how incredibly RUDE it is for someone to suggest weight loss surgery to another person.

that's even worse than asking when someone is going to have unprotected intercourse in order to procreate.

Date: 15 Apr 2009 22:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thousandpages.livejournal.com
it's also not likely to help someone who isn't an overeater.

Well, it can help people who aren't overeaters necessarily (or in any kind of pathological sense), but who have gotten to such a big weight that exercise and diet alone stop being effective and they have other health considerations. For instance, those who are classified as "super obese" and have certain conditions (like the one where they get problems in their legs where they swell and trap fat/fluid, causing severe mobility problems) that require them to lose weight rapidly.

But even then, it's not always best or always effective.

i won't even get INTO how incredibly RUDE it is for someone to suggest weight loss surgery to another person.

that's even worse than asking when someone is going to have unprotected intercourse in order to procreate.


Yeah, it was rude. And I want to come to my sister's defense, but honestly? I was so hurt by the remark that I can't defend it. I know she's a physical therapist and going for her PhD and all, but I really hope she doesn't say things like that to her patients, especially if she ever works with overweight/obese ones who have other injuries. Because the last thing you want to hear when you're just trying to learn how to walk and function is that the person helping you thinks you're so hideously fat you need surgical alteration.

And you're right about it being worse than asking "when are you going to have kids". I dread that question after the wedding. Seriously, can I just hang out a sign that says, "Not having any" and get it over with? I've tried to inform all my friends and family beforehand, but I'm sure I'll get comments.

There should be rules, you know?

Date: 15 Apr 2009 23:32 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] br0ken_dolly
it's nice that you'd like to defend her, but what she's saying isn't worth defending. you have every right to be furious about the whole thing (and i think you shouldn't stand for it).

it bothers me a lot that she's going for an advanced degree like that and she has such an unrealistic view of fat people and fat in general. i really hope she doesn't end up talking to patients like she talks to you, because she'll be setting herself up to fail. as more and more people start working towards health at every size and realising it's possible to be both fat *and* healthy, fewer and fewer people are going to stand for being belittled by misinformed healthcare providers.

and if we ever see socialized healthcare, people will be in a position to be even more choosy about who they see, and the fat-phobic healthcare providers will surely see a decrease in business.

i'm dreading the kid questions, too... luckily no one's come out and said it yet, but i know it's like the elephant in the room at this point. with dave's mormon brother refusing to let my in-laws see their grandkids, and jeff and christopher enjoying their DINK lifestyle, we're their last chance for grandkids. my MIL keeps talking about them but hasn't outright asked yet. *sigh*

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